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Star Citizen: Even More Delays?

Despite the gigantic project’s development being public, it might still be far off from its launch.

New York Times reports that the game has received over 148 million dollars (!), but it couldn’t keep the 2014 and the 2016 release date targets, which means Chris Roberts’ project that got split into three is still nowhere to be found. Star Citizen as an MMO, Squadron 42 as the single player campaign with all the stars, and Star Marine as an FPS spin-off. Tough times.

Even though the game’s development report is public, Star Citizen has no release date whatsoever. It keeps being developed without that light at the end of the tunnel, making the pledging people concerned.

Chris Roberts may have dreamed too big.

 

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  1. Avatar Bju00f8rn Sandu00e5ker says:

    Aniku00f3,nnEven if this news stub was quite short, it contained factual errors … nnStar Citizen isn’t split into three – Star Marine (FPS) is part of the in-game simulator, where you can train without losing your ship or life, as is also Arena Commander (ship combat) and racing.nnAs for the missed release years, the one in (late) 2016 was for the single player Squadron 42, which is going to be released in 2017. nnThe estimated release in 2014 is a little more complex. It involves both the single player version and the MMO part of Star Citizen and was postponed by natural causes (if you understand the dynamics of crowdfunding), since pledges kept coming in and the creator, Chris Roberts, had no other choice than to expand the scope – which they always planned anyway, but thought they’d have to wait until after release (in 2014). nnBasically, if they’d released the original game in 2014 and pocketed the millions extra they got through pledges, the backers would not have understood why and, rightfully, made an uproar. So the creator had to expand the scope early in development, to make use of the extra millions in development. He also asked the backers what their opinion were and presented a poll which resulted in an overwhelmingly support for the suggestion of expanding the scope. nnThis is a little known backside of the phenomenon that is ONGOING crowdfunding of games and cannot be compared to what we normally label as scope creep or feature creep. I thought this might interest you, since you’re interested in the business side of the gaming industry. 🙂

    • Gergely Herpai Gergely Herpai says:

      There is no factual error in the article, we used the New York Times article as a source. As for the release date, which was supposed to be 2014 it’s a FACT that it was pushed further and further away. I am sorry, but this wall of apologizing text can’t hide the very fact, that we are in 2017 and no Star Citizen whatsoever is released to the public. 🙂 Regards,nnBadSector

      • Avatar Bju00f8rn Sandu00e5ker says:

        No factual errors? Why don’t you go and investigate yourself if the claim “got split into three” is true? You’ll quickly find it isn’t.nnMy comment wasn’t meant as “a wall of apologizing text” but as factual information to a journalist(?) who seemed to not be informed. I’m not connected to the project in any official way and have no reason to apologize for delays. I’m simply explaining why it happened.

        • Gergely Herpai Gergely Herpai says:

          We didn’t see the game itself, we used the New York Times article as source. As for the game being split in three I checked out Wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Citizen I won’t quote from here, but it’s CLEARLY explained here, that the game has separate parts. What are you talking about??? What we wrote: “Star Citizen as an MMO, Squadron 42 as the single player campaign with all the stars, and Star Marine as an FPS spin-off.” That’s factual. Again: no factual error.nnAs for your “a wall of apologizing text” it’s about why it wasn’t released in 2014, not about the game being in three parts – which it is.

          • Avatar Bju00f8rn Sandu00e5ker says:

            1. You should check your sources, not rely on other news sites to report the truth in all and every way.nn2. What I am talking about is what I wrote in the first comment is the truth: Star Marine is part of the in-game simulator. Another part is Arena Commander, and a third has no name but is about racing. I challenge you to go and check this for yourself.nn3. The Wikipedia article is upkeeped by haters of the game and contains a LOT of factual errors. It’s not a reliable source for Star Citizen.nn4. The information I gave about why it was delayed is also a fact, not apologies. And why are you referring to what I wrote in quotes, when I was simply quoting you?

          • Gergely Herpai Gergely Herpai says:

            1. OK. If not the New York Times, what do you suggest, from which sources should I report the truth? Star Citizen’s marketing department leaflets, PR emails and directives?nn2. OK. So in this case, the game has indeed three separate parts. By the way, as far as I know Star Citizen itself is an MMO and Squadron 42 is the single player campain. Talking about a “factual error”. 😉 Or do you know better? Are you part of the team?nn3. Yeah, yeah of course. 😉 “Haters”. 😉 Nevermind that there’s not a single tangible negative sentence written here. Again what do suggest I should read then if not the press, Wikipedia and big magazines as the New York Times? (See 1.)

          • Avatar Bju00f8rn Sandu00e5ker says:

            1. Every reporter/journalist knows (or should know) that sources must be checked. It’s a playable alpha available, which should be a nice place to start.nn2. I’m not part of the team, no. See above, where I say just that. The article here claims that Star Citizen is split into three parts, where Star Marine is one of them. That is false.nn3. Yes, haters. There are more than you’d imagine and they have complete control over maintaining the Wikipedia article. I suggest you try the game for yourself.

          • Gergely Herpai Gergely Herpai says:

            1. What’s a fact that this game was supposed to be released in 2014, it gathered 148 millions and one of the backers said that “u201cOf course I have reservations about whether or not Cloud Imperium Games can meet their goals,u201d Those are facts. That’s what we wrote about.nnI suppose you are surely not suggesting the news reporters to play an alpha of an MMO just so that they can report a short news of 4-6 sentences? LOLMAOnnMate, it’s NOT a preview or betatest. If you want to read a preview, check out the preview or betatest section. This is SHORT NEWS. Different thing.nn2. Ok so Star Marine, which has completely different gameplay, which is probably loaded SEPARATELY during gamplay and which had to be developed SEPARATELY is in fact part of Star Citizen? And we wrote that it’s split into three? OMG, huge difference. Cry me a river.nn3. What I read on Wikipedia had zero negative or hating content (or at least quote me some!), just factual description about the development. Not that I truly care, whether those guys like the game or not. And sorry, as there are TONS of games out there, (unfortunately) I don’t have the time to play the alpha of such a complex and huge MMO game (or any MMO game for that matter) which in fact, could never see the day.

          • Avatar Bju00f8rn Sandu00e5ker says:

            You don’t seem to care if there are differences in your reporting and the truth, which is both shocking and sad. nnBesides, your tone has become increasingly hostile and unserious towards me, so I see no reason to continue this “debate”. I hope that this site doesn’t come down to your level in the future and wish you good luck with your reporting.

          • Gergely Herpai Gergely Herpai says:

            “The truth” are the facts. We reported the facts. If it shocks and saddens you, I am sorry about that. Cheer up!nnBTW I am not hostile, just sarcastic sometimes. Can’t help it, sorry.

          • Avatar Bju00f8rn Sandu00e5ker says:

            “Can’t help it, sorry.”nnOf course you can. But you choose not to, which shows how you really are under the skin. I guess you’re also one of those many who behave badly when drunk, and then excuse yourself the day after by saying “I was drunk, and besides I don’t remember.”? For your information, how you behave when drunk shows your REAL nature. The one you hide when you’re sober. Same with debates, your “sarcasm” doesn’t hide your hostility.nnViking out.

          • Gergely Herpai Gergely Herpai says:

            Haha, well sometimes I drink alcohol indeed and it happened, that I did or said stupid things, which I did regret the next day, or didn’t remember can’t deny you that. 😉 However, my sarcasm is conscious. Especially, when you continue spewing BS. (About hostile Wikipedia for example.) Should I tell this more politely, to not hurt you? Perhaps. Truth is, I don’t care that much. Nor have the time or patience to do so.

          • Avatar Dragon75 says:

            I’m curious about your point 2 here.nHow do you get Star Citizen the MMO and Squadron 42 the single player campaign to be 3 parts?nLast I checked that counts as 2, not 3.

  2. Avatar Bjørn Sandåker says:

    Anikó,

    Even if this news stub was quite short, it contained factual errors …

    Star Citizen isn’t split into three – Star Marine (FPS) is part of the in-game simulator, where you can train without losing your ship or life, as is also Arena Commander (ship combat) and racing.

    As for the missed release years, the one in (late) 2016 was for the single player Squadron 42, which is going to be released in 2017.

    The estimated release in 2014 is a little more complex. It involves both the single player version and the MMO part of Star Citizen and was postponed by natural causes (if you understand the dynamics of crowdfunding), since pledges kept coming in and the creator, Chris Roberts, had no other choice than to expand the scope – which they always planned anyway, but thought they’d have to wait until after release (in 2014).

    Basically, if they’d released the original game in 2014 and pocketed the millions extra they got through pledges, the backers would not have understood why and, rightfully, made an uproar. So the creator had to expand the scope early in development, to make use of the extra millions in development. He also asked the backers what their opinion were and presented a poll which resulted in an overwhelmingly support for the suggestion of expanding the scope.

    This is a little known backside of the phenomenon that is ONGOING crowdfunding of games and cannot be compared to what we normally label as scope creep or feature creep. I thought this might interest you, since you’re interested in the business side of the gaming industry. 🙂

    • Gergely Herpai Gergely Herpai says:

      There is no factual error in the article, we used the New York Times article as a source. As for the release date, which was supposed to be 2014 it’s a FACT that it was pushed further and further away. I am sorry, but this wall of apologizing text can’t hide the very fact, that we are in 2017 and no Star Citizen whatsoever is released to the public. 🙂 Regards,

      BadSector

      • Avatar Bjørn Sandåker says:

        No factual errors? Why don’t you go and investigate yourself if the claim “got split into three” is true? You’ll quickly find it isn’t.

        My comment wasn’t meant as “a wall of apologizing text” but as factual information to a journalist(?) who seemed to not be informed. I’m not connected to the project in any official way and have no reason to apologize for delays. I’m simply explaining why it happened.

        • Gergely Herpai Gergely Herpai says:

          We didn’t see the game itself, we used the New York Times article as source. As for the game being split in three I checked out Wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Citizen I won’t quote from here, but it’s CLEARLY explained here, that the game has separate parts. What are you talking about??? What we wrote: “Star Citizen as an MMO, Squadron 42 as the single player campaign with all the stars, and Star Marine as an FPS spin-off.” That’s factual. Again: no factual error.

          As for your “a wall of apologizing text” it’s about why it wasn’t released in 2014, not about the game being in three parts – which it is.

          • Avatar Bjørn Sandåker says:

            1. You should check your sources, not rely on other news sites to report the truth in all and every way.

            2. What I am talking about is what I wrote in the first comment is the truth: Star Marine is part of the in-game simulator. Another part is Arena Commander, and a third has no name but is about racing. I challenge you to go and check this for yourself.

            3. The Wikipedia article is upkeeped by haters of the game and contains a LOT of factual errors. It’s not a reliable source for Star Citizen.

            4. The information I gave about why it was delayed is also a fact, not apologies. And why are you referring to what I wrote in quotes, when I was simply quoting you?

          • Gergely Herpai Gergely Herpai says:

            1. OK. If not the New York Times, what do you suggest, from which sources should I report the truth? Star Citizen’s marketing department leaflets, PR emails and directives?

            2. OK. So in this case, the game has indeed three separate parts. By the way, as far as I know Star Citizen itself is an MMO and Squadron 42 is the single player campain. Talking about a “factual error”. 😉 Or do you know better? Are you part of the team?

            3. Yeah, yeah of course. 😉 “Haters”. 😉 Nevermind that there’s not a single tangible negative sentence written here. Again what do suggest I should read then if not the press, wikipedia and big magazines as the New York Times. (See 1.)

          • Avatar Bjørn Sandåker says:

            1. Every reporter/journalist knows (or should know) that sources must be checked. It’s a playable alpha available, which should be a nice place to start.

            2. I’m not part of the team, no. See above, where I say just that. The article here claims that Star Citizen is split into three parts, where Star Marine is one of them. That is false.

            3. Yes, haters. There are more than you’d imagine and they have complete control over maintaining the Wikipedia article. I suggest you try the game for yourself.

          • Gergely Herpai Gergely Herpai says:

            1. What’s a fact that this game was supposed to be released in 2014, it gathered 148 millions and one of the backers said that ““Of course I have reservations about whether or not Cloud Imperium Games can meet their goals,” Those are facts. That’s what we wrote about.

            I suppose you are surely not suggesting the news reporters to play an alpha of an MMO just so that they can report a short news of 4-6 sentences? LOLMAO

            Mate, it’s NOT a preview or betatest. If I you want to read a preview, check out the preview or betatest section. This is a SHORT NEWS. Different thing.

            2. Ok so Star Marine, which has completely different gameplay, which is probably loaded SEPARATELY during gamplay and which had to be developed SEPARATELY is in fact part of Star Citizen? And we wrote that it’s split into three? OMG, huge difference. Cry me a river.

            3. What I read on Wikipedia had zero negative or hating content (or at least quote me some!), just factual description about the development. Not that I truly care, whether those guys like the game or not. And sorry, as there are TONS of games out there, (unfortunately) I don’t have the game to play such a complex and huge MMO game (or any MMO game for that matter) which in fact, could never see the day.

          • Avatar Bjørn Sandåker says:

            You don’t seem to care if there are differences in your reporting and the truth, which is both shocking and sad.

            Besides, your tone has become increasingly hostile and unserious towards me, so I see no reason to continue this “debate”. I hope that this site doesn’t come down to your level in the future and wish you good luck with your reporting.

          • Gergely Herpai Gergely Herpai says:

            “The truth” are the facts. We reported the facts. If it shocks and saddens you, I am sorry about that. Cheer up!

            BTW I am not hostile, just sarcastic sometimes. Can’t help it, sorry.

          • Avatar Bjørn Sandåker says:

            “Can’t help it, sorry.”

            Of course you can. But you choose not to, which shows how you really are under the skin. I guess you’re also one of those many who behave badly when drunk, and then excuse yourself the day after by saying “I was drunk, and besides I don’t remember.”? For your information, how you behave when drunk shows your REAL nature. The one you hide when you’re sober. Same with debates, your “sarcasm” doesn’t hide your hostility.

            Viking out.

          • Gergely Herpai Gergely Herpai says:

            Haha, well sometimes I drink alcohol indeed and it happened, that I did or said stupid things, which I did regret the next day, or didn’t remember can’t deny you that. 😉 However, my sarcasm is conscious. Especially, when you continue spewing BS. (About hostile Wikipedia for example.) Should I tell this more politely, to not hurt you? Perhaps. Truth is, I don’t care that much.

          • Avatar Dragon75 says:

            I’m curious about your point 2 here.
            How do you get Star Citizen the MMO and Squadron 42 the single player campaign to be 3 parts?
            Last I checked that counts as 2, not 3.

  3. Avatar Treylos StormJaeger says:

    how old is this article. I have been a backer since Nov 21, 2012. Now 3.1 is out and it is awesome . Waiting on 3.2. I will remain faithful.

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